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مشاهدة النسخة كاملة : Words of Wisdom

тнэ ѕиіρэя

17-6-2007, 06:40 PM

السلام عليكم ورحمة الله وبركاته ،،

مبروك للمرهـ ... طعش افتتاح منتدى اللغة الانجليزية .. :clap:

وبهالمناسبة حبيت اعطيك بعض الحكم <<< حكيم زمانه :cool3:

.Time and tide wait for no man
الأمواج والوقت لا ينتظران أحدًا Translated by Dragonier

.You can't make an omelette without breaking eggs
لا يمكنك أن تصنع العجة دون أن تكسر بيضًا Translated by Dragonier

.The nagging woman is like a dripping tap
المرأة الثرثارة صنبور لا ينقطع (أو يستمر بالجريان) Translated by Dragonier
He who make no mistakes makes nothing by Dragonier
من لا يخطأ لا يُصلِح
.Laugh and the world laughs with you. Weep and you weep alone by Dragonier
إضحك يضحك لك العالم، وابك تبك وحيدًا
Never trouble troubles till trouble troubles you. It only
doubles troubles and troubles others too. by Dragonier

proverbs ------------------ synonym in Arabic
السكوت علامة الرضا = Silence gives consent
كل ممنوع مرغوب = Forbidden fruits is sweetest
الأقربون أولى بالمعروف = Charity begins at home
اطلبوا العلم من المهد إلى اللحد = Never too old to learn
القناعة كنز لا يفنى = Contentment is better than riches
فاطمة الزهراء by

ســلامي

فاطمة الزهراء

18-6-2007, 12:28 AM

وعليكم السلام ورحمة الله وبركاته

wow I like the proverbs very much

but unfortunately I don't know neither their meaning nor theire translation

one proverb which I understand is seconde

I hope the members know their translation in Arabic

thank u 4 these proverbs

لا تحرمنا من جديدك

في أمان الله

Dragonier

18-6-2007, 02:00 AM

السلام عليكم ورحمة الله وبركاته
:) .First off all, I thank for this nice and very useful topic

I think that english proverbs are very interesting specially
.after comapring them with the corresponding Arabic proverb

.As for the translation and the meaning of the proverbs in Arabic
زWhen I read the proverb I was very interested in their meaning
So, I will try my best to translate them and explain them in the best way I can

:cool21: ?Shall we Begin

.Time and tide wait for no man
الأمواج والوقت لا ينتظران أحدًا

المقصود هنا في البداية أن الوقت لا ينتظر أحدًا،
فعلى الإنسان أن يستفيد من وقته قدر المستطاع قبل أن ينفد منه
أم بالنسبة لكلمة tide التي تعني موجة أو أمواج
فهي تعني أنه على الإنسان أن ينتهز الفرصة إن مرت عليه، لأنها لن تنتظر
من ينتهزها كما أنها قد لا تتكرر مجددًا،

.You can't make an omelette without breaking eggs
لا يمكنك أن تصنع العجة دون أن تكسر بيضًا، :essen:

أعتقد أن المعنى واضح هنا، إذ لا يستطيع الإنسان أن يصنع شيئًا إلا بأداء جميع
الخظوات التي تمكنه من ذلك.

The nagging* woman is like a dripping tap
المرأة الثرثارة صنبور لا ينقطع (أو يستمر بالجريان). :11lil:
أو
المرأة الثرثارة نهر لا ينضب

أعتقد أن معناه أصبح واضحًا الأن ولا يحتاج لأي شرح. :p

The first one was my favourite proverb because it had a deep meaning.
:wub2: I liked the second and the third, But the first was much deeper

I tried to find the corresponding Arabic proverbs (I mean the proverbs that has the same meaning).
.I couldn't find them but I'll keep trying to do so

icon30Thank for you nice topic and keep up the good work

فاطمة الزهراء

18-6-2007, 02:18 AM

thank u my sis Dragonier for this good explaining

I want to give u some proverbs with their translation to Arabic

1) Silence gives consent

السكوت أخو الرضا

2) Forbidden fruits is sweetest

كل ممنوع متبوع

3) Charity begins at home

الأقربون أولى بالمعروف

4) Never too old to learn

اطلبوا العلم من المهد إلى اللحد

5) Contentment is better than riches

خير الغنى القنوع

في أمان الله

Mercury

18-6-2007, 02:40 AM

السلام عليكم ورحمة الله وبركاته ..

.Thank you [SSS_999] for your nice thread

.I'll add some proverbs if you nevermind

.Friendship is a love without wings

.Love is blind; friendship closes its eyes

.Go East.. Go West.. One Piece Is The Best :D

.Hmmm.. thats it thanks again

.Sidenote: when I see you, I remember the police because of 999. Police phone number in my country

Mercury

:D

Dragonier

18-6-2007, 02:40 AM

Thank for the proverbs Fatima
I liked them. And as a matter of fact I found other Arabic proverbs
with the same meaning. And more common than the ones you mentioned

1) Silence gives consent

السكوت أخو الرضا
السكوت علامة الرضا

2) Forbidden fruits is sweetest

كل ممنوع متبوع
كل ممنوع مرغوب

5) Contentment is better han riches
القناuة كنز لا يفنى

.I like to add other proverbs as well

He who make no mistakes makes nothing
من لا يخطأ لا يُصلِح

Laugh and the world laughs with you. Weep and you weep alone.
إضحك يضحك لك العالم، وابك تبك وحيدًا

And one of my most favourite proverbs

Never trouble troubles till trouble troubles you. It only
.doubles troubles and troubles others too

I won't write its translation because it's beauty is in its words :harhar1:
.Try to slove it

I will come by later and add more proverbs

Phantom Kid

18-6-2007, 02:45 AM

السلام عليكم و رحمة الله و بركاته

look like the members started with the english stuff, very very well . . .
Thanks SSS for the nice topic,
aslo, I want to thank dragoneir for the translation...

بالتوفيق

فاطمة الزهراء

18-6-2007, 03:06 AM

Thank for the proverbs Fatima
I liked them. And as a matter of fact I found other Arabic proverbs
with the same meaning. And more common than the ones you mentioned
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1) Silence gives consent

السكوت أخو الرضا
السكوت علامة الرضا

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2) Forbidden fruits is sweetest

كل ممنوع متبوع
كل ممنوع مرغوب

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5) Contentment is better han riches
القناuة كنز لا يفنى

thanks a lot

وفعلا ترجمتك للأمثال التي وضعتها هي الأكثر تداولا

I like to add other proverbs as well

He who make no mistakes makes nothing
من لا يخطأ لا يُصلِح

Laugh and the world laughs with you. Weep and you weep alone.
إضحك يضحك لك العالم، وابك تبك وحيدًا
wow they're cute proverbs and also useful
thank u

Never trouble troubles till trouble troubles you. It only
.doubles troubles and troubles others too
I think I let it tomorrow

إن شاء الله

لأن عقلي مغلق حاليا XD

وفي انتظار المزيد من حكمكِ الرائعة والهادفة اختي Dragonier

وفي أمان الله

shooog

18-6-2007, 03:29 AM

السلام عليكم ورحمة الله وبركاته

Thank you very much

It's a great topic

Time and tide wait for no man

This proverb has a deep meaning.
It gives a picture of a case today.

Thank you Mr.SSS_999

Never trouble troubles till trouble troubles you. It only
.doubles troubles and troubles others too

Thank you Ms. Dragonier

тнэ ѕиіρэя

18-6-2007, 03:47 AM

You are welcome sis Fatma and thank you for the proverbs
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Thank you sis Dragonier for the translation and the proverbs
Actualy I didn't want to translate them, because I'll translate them literaly translation, so the meaning will be not clear but u do an excellent work by describing them
thanks again
:harhar1: I liked the third one
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you are welcome bro Mercury
? who can say no for Mercury
thanks for your proverbs
:clap:"always my friend say that "you like a police number", so they called me "Doreyat
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you are welcome boss, Phantom Kid
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I'll put those proverbs in the first post if you don't mind

тнэ ѕиіρэя

18-6-2007, 03:50 AM

You are welcome Ms.shooog

K.Shinichi

18-6-2007, 05:45 AM

Creativity is what your all about

Thanx triple S 4 this usefull subject

^_^ See ya

فاطمة الزهراء

18-6-2007, 12:42 PM

I'm back

Never trouble troubles till trouble troubles you. It only
.doubles troubles and troubles others too

I'm really sorry, I do my best for translate this proverb but unfortunately I'm not succeded

so I search in google and I find the proper translation

لا تحتك بالمشاكل، فإن هذا يزيد المشاكل، ويسبب المشاكل للكثير

Ai-Kun

18-6-2007, 07:34 PM

тнэ ѕиіρэя

19-6-2007, 12:11 AM

:

wooow

so little words have so much meanings

of course i will give u my http://www.msoms-anime.net/images/icons/icon10.gif words of wisdom

ahmm ahmmm

a man see a half empty cup but the others see it half full

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what does it mean

dont really know lool

thanks SSS_999 for this great subject

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wooow
thank you ai, it's a nice wisdom
you are welcome
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I'll add some wisdoms
.A house without a wife is like fifty without a fife
.A house without a wife is like kitchen without a knife
.While the cat is away, the mice will play
إذا غاب القط العب يا فار :harhar1: :synonym in Arabic

see u

13390detective

19-6-2007, 05:38 AM

mysterious eyes

19-6-2007, 06:16 PM

thanks brother

тнэ ѕиіρэя

19-6-2007, 11:32 PM

thank you very very much

for this wonderfull proverbs

it's very important

it had great meaning
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and this proverb from me:

goods friends are hard to find , harder to leave , and impossible to forget

as the members of msoms

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ملاحظة :
لست جيدا في التحدث بالانجليزية افهمها نعم لكن من ناحية الاملاء والتعبير
حدث ولا حرج
ولكن سأكتب بالانجليزية عسى الواحد فينا يتعلم شوي
:nosweat:

you are welcome Mr. 13390detective
.Don't worry about the mistakes, because the person learn from his mistakes
As my Prof. says, " If you didn't make mistakes you won't learn, the one who didn't make mistake " .is the one who didn't work
see my posts, you will find terrible mistakes
:clap: thanks for the proverbs

thanks brother

Welcome Sis

CrEaTiVe

20-6-2007, 07:43 AM

... Yo SSS_999

... Hi again … it seems that you & Dragonier are active members in this section … loooooooooooool

... But also, I can't forger the others … so, keep it up & do your best to get it used

Immm … the same as the previous thread that you wrote; I can't get out without noticing some unclear points …l

Here, I noticed a mistake every one at most are fallen in with … so, thank god I came today to explain it before I come with the time that I can't explain it to millions of the members …l

IDIOMS and TONGUE-TWISTERS

!?What is the deference between IDIOM and TONGUE-TWISTER

IDIOM as defined in GOOGLE is a manner of speaking that is natural to native speakers of a language …l

TONGUE-TWISTERS as defined in GOOGLE are a phrase in any language that is designed to be difficult to articulate properly.l

... Most of you here are mixing between idioms & tongue-twisters … and that's WRONG

:Examples for Idioms

.Time and tide wait for no man -

.You can't make an omelet without breaking eggs -

.The nagging woman is like a dripping tap -

.Laugh and the world laughs with you. Weep and you weep alone -

:Examples for Tongue-twisters

.I can can the can but the cant can't can me -

.Six thick thistle sticks. Six thick thistles stick -

.Sam's shop stocks short spotted socks -

.The soldiers shouldered shooters on their shoulders -

... Hope you guys don't get it wrong next time

Never trouble troubles till trouble troubles you. It only
.doubles troubles and troubles others too

... Now Dragonier, look at you proverb and answer the following question

??? Is it hard to pronouns flexible no matter it has a meaning or not or what

That's what I have & thanks for your corporations among you & hope you'll be improved in the future …l

Yours from the universe of creativity
CrEaTiVe

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Dragonier

20-6-2007, 12:43 PM

Seems you guys added alot of proverbs since the last time I Enterd this topic. Keep up this good work and I will come by later to add a few. I'm not in the mood at the time being

Hey CrEaTiVe
Good to see you again
I didn't anderstand the relation between what you said
and the topic. And I'd be pleased if you explained the relation

... Now Dragonier, look at you proverb and answer the following question

??? Is it hard to pronouns flexible no matter it has a meaning or not or what

Believe me. It's an English proverb
or I would be more accurate if I said that an English proverb was derived from it. It was a famous poem in 1882
The proverb is
"Never trouble trouble till trouble troubles you"
But I liked to add the original poem because I like it
That's the whole IDEA

So, It really has a meaning and also it is a valuable one
Sorry that I didn't mention this before

3beer

20-6-2007, 01:54 PM

CrEaTiVe

20-6-2007, 02:33 PM

... immm ... ok ms. Dragonier

... it seems that my explanation was a little bit unclear ... so, I'll try to explain in arabic & hope you understand me

إمممم ... الآن عندنا في العربي لمن أقول المثالين التاليين:-

- من جد وجد ومن زرع حصد ...

- خشبة الحبس خمس خشبات ...

الآن إيش الفرق بين الإثنين ؟؟؟

الأول حكمة أو مقولة لها معنى وسهلة الانتشار وتداولها بين الناس ... ولكن الثاني ؟؟؟ لو تلاحظين الثاني بيستعملوها في المسابقات ... قولي [ خشبة الحبس خمس خشبات ] وأعطيكي هدية ... موش صح ؟؟؟

وغير كذا ... الأمثلة أو المقولات اللي زي هذي بعضها لها معنى وبعضها فقط على اللسان ... عدة أحرف متشابهة كونت كلمة والكلمة هذي ورى كلمة ثانية بنفس الأحرف بس بمعنى آخر وهكذا وإنتي ماشية كونا جملة صعبة التلفظ ... حتى أنا العربي ما أقدر أتلفظ بيها إلا لمن أتدرب عليها ...

The same goes with English ... e.g. when I say [Every man for himself is not gonna work] or whatever, it's actually a saying that has been said among people in centuries … & we can't change it …l

But look at this [I can can the can but the can can't can me] … when we look at the meaning of this tongue-twister; it goes like this:l

... I: is already known

... CAN: The 1st can is the verb which means the possibility or the ability of doing this thing

CAN: The 2nd can is the noun which means a metal container for the food or the drink or even the container of the video cassette …l

THE CAN: the 3rd can in the tongue-twister is the same as the previous one … but here it means [Dragonier has the ability to can the container of the food] …l

... BUT: is already known

... THE CAN: the same as the 2nd and the 3rd explanation

... CAN'T: is already known

CAN ME: the same as the 2nd and the 3rd … and here is the whole sentence [Dragonier has the ability to can the container of the food but that container of the food has not the ability of canning her] … >>> how is that … loooooooooooooool …l

Bear in mind that every proveb has a meaning including the tongue-twister also ... but where is the ones who understand what does these proverbs carry ...l

... Hope this will be better to clear up the point

... Anything else, I'll be on

Yours from the universe of creativity
CrEaTiVe
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فاطمة الزهراء

20-6-2007, 02:47 PM

Hi every body
Thanx for this subject
acually, I want U to translat and illustrate the meaning of this proverb

Never trouble troubles till trouble troubles you. It only
.doubles troubles and troubles others too

Thanx

اسمحيلي أختي Dragonier أن أكتب له ترجمة هذه الحكمة

لا تحتك بالمشاكل، فإن هذا يزيد المشاكل، ويسبب المشاكل للكثير

في أمان الله

Dragonier

20-6-2007, 02:53 PM

:) Thank Mr Creative for the explaination

What you've said now clearified everything

I didn't know that Tongue Twisters hide a certain meaning
I thought it was only created for fun
It appears that I will try to look up some of these twisters my self

But, I didn't realise any Tongue twisters in the topic
:cool21: Maybe I began to lose sight

Thank you for you helpful explaination and sorry
for any disturbance

icon30Keep on your creativity

موش_موش

20-6-2007, 02:56 PM

GREAT TOPIC

GREAT DISCUSSION

THERE ARE SOME INTRESTING PROVERBS THAT I HAVE HEARD OF FOR THE FIRST TIME
IT WAS GREAT THAT YOU MENTIONED THESE TOUNGE TWISTERS CAUSE I GUESS WE ALL GET MIXED UP SOMETIME'S

"I LIKE THE ONE ABOUT THE "CAN

I DIDNT GRASP THE MEANING AT FIRST BUT ONCE IT WAS EXPLAINED I LAUGHED AT HOW SILLY I WAS :nosweat:S

SOME TIME'S WHEN YOU THINK IN A COMPLEX WAY YOU MISS THE BIG PICTURE

SO KEEP THEM COMING

K.Shinichi

20-6-2007, 03:49 PM

I'm Baaaack with some new wisdoms :

"Just because you believe something doesn't make it true."

إن كنت مصدقا بشيء ما لا يعني ذلك بانه صحيح

"It takes a long time to become really good at something."

بالجهد و العمل نحقق الامل

Never judge a person until you really know that person

لا تحكم على الشخص الا ان عرفته جيداً

When you are depress or down, don't count on other, but yourself in moving forward with your life.

عندما كون حبطاً او مكتئباً لا تعتمد على الاخرين و تابع مشوارك لوحدك

How bad thing is, be happy because life is short, letting bad thing get in your way it doesn't help.

مهما صعبت الحياة و كثرت مشقاتها لا تدعها تحول بينك و بين هدفك تابع حياتك و لا تلتفت لها

тнэ ѕиіρэя

20-6-2007, 04:18 PM

WoooW
Thank you Mr. CrEaTiVe
Your exaplanitoin was fantastic
I'll add some wisdoms
Early to bed and early to rise, makes a man healthy, wealthy, and wise
واعتقد قول رسول الله صلى الله عليه وسلم: " بُورك لأمتي في بكورها " قريب من معناهـ .

All's well that Ends well
الأعمال بخواتيمها

A picture is worth a thousand wprds
الصورة تغني عن ألف كلمة

Dragonier

22-6-2007, 04:25 PM

icon30 Many great idioms have been added
Each one of them has a deep meaning

Of course, I have some idioms that I want to add

A fox is not taken twice in the same snare
أفضل مقابل لهذا المثل هو الحديث الشريف عن الرسول صلى الله عليه وسلم:
"لا يلدغ مؤمن من جحر مرتين"

Action speak louder than words
الأفعال أبلغ من الأقوال

That's a nice one
For every evil under the sun, there is a remedy or there is none
If there is one; try to find it. If there is none never mind it
لكل علة تحت الشمس، قد تجد الدواء و قد لا تجد
فإن كان العلاج موجودًا ابحث عنه، وإن لم يوجد فلا تأس منه

.Little drops of water, little grains of sand
.Make the mighty ocean and the pleasent sand
قطرات المطر القليلة وحبات الرمل الضئيلة
تصنع المحيط العظيم، والأرض المُرضية

Without hope the heart will break
لولا الأمل لانفطر الفؤاد

:) I hope you liked them