To daffodils and Death be not proud

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    الصورة الرمزية shooog

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    افتراضي To daffodils and Death be not proud

    السلام عليكم ورحمة الله وبركاته


    To Daffodils



    FAIR daffodils, we weep to see
    ;You haste away so soon
    As yet the early-rising sun
    .Has not attain'd his noon
    Stay, stay
    Until the hasting day
    Has run
    ;But to the evensong
    And, having pray'd together, we
    .Will go with you along

    .We have short time to stay, as you
    ;We have as short a spring
    As quick a growth to meet decay
    .As you, or anything
    We die
    As your hours do, and dry
    Away
    ;Like to the summer's rain
    Or as the pearls of morning's dew
    .Ne'er to be found again



    I 1591- 1674

    To Daffodils" is a poem written by Robert Herrick"
    It is about a shortness of flower's life as a shortness of a good thing's life

    The flowers come early and leave early to show it have a short time
    Not only the daffodils, but also the hasting day
    The speaker likens a short time of life as a short time of spring
    Also as a summer's rain and morning dew


    Short explanation

    FAIR daffodils, we weep to see
    ;You haste away so soon

    يصف الشاعر مجموعة من الأزهار بالجمال ويخبرها بحزنه لأنها ستموت قريبا

    ،؛،؛،؛،؛،؛،؛

    As yet the early-rising sun
    .Has not attain'd his noon

    يصور الشاعر قصر حياة تلك الزهور الجميلة فيقول
    أنها تولد في الصباح الباكر وتموت قبل أن تسطع الشمس في كبد السماء
    ( يقصد هنا أنها رغم قصر حياتها إلا أنها لا تعيش حتى المساء)

    ،؛،؛،؛،؛،؛،؛

    Stay, stay
    Until the hasting day
    Has run
    ;But to the evensong
    And, having pray'd together, we
    .Will go with you along

    ينادي الشاعر الزهور ويؤكد عليها بأن تبقى معه ليستمتع بجمالها وليدعوا معا إلى أن يموتا سويا

    ،؛،؛،؛،؛،؛،؛

    .We have short time to stay, as you
    ;We have as short a spring
    As quick a growth to meet decay
    .As you, or anything

    يصور الشاعر الحياة الإنسانية فيقول أنها أيضا مدة قصيرة فهي كمثل فصل الربيع
    في ظهوره وجماله وفي زواله بعد حين

    ،؛،؛،؛،؛،؛،؛

    We die
    As your hours do, and dry
    Away
    ;Like to the summer's rain
    Or as the pearls of morning's dew
    .Ne'er to be found again

    يصور الشاعر الحياة الإنسانية في صور جميلة, فقد صورها بأمطار الصيف
    التي سرعان ما تنقضي وبقطرات الندى في الصباح التي تختفي بظهور الشمس.




    Death be not proud




    Death, be not proud, though some have called thee
    ;Mighty and dreadful, for thou art not so
    For those whom thou think'st thou dost overthrow
    .Die not, poor Death, nor yet canst thou kill me
    From rest and sleep, which but thy pictures be
    Much pleasure; then from thee much more must flow
    And soonest our best men with thee do go
    .Rest of their bones, and soul's delivery
    Thou art slave to fate, chance, kings, and desperate men

    ;And dost with poison, war, and sickness dwell

    And poppy or charms can make us sleep as well

    ?And better than thy stroke; why swell'st thou then
    One short sleep past, we wake eternally
    .And death shall be no more; Death, thou shalt die


    II 1572 -1631

    "Death be not proud" is a poem written by John Donne
    John Donne is a leader of metaphysical poets

    (من مميزات شعرهم : المبالغة في الوصف وأيضا مخاطبة العقل أكثر من العواطف)

    The speaker talks to death that you should not be proud of yourself.
    Some people think you are mighty and dreadful
    He tells that those whom Death thinks it kills do not truly die.
    Rest and sleep are a kind of death, but they are pleasurable.

    Thou art slave to fate: he personified Death to be slave
    These two things poppy and charms also can make us sleep and rest but they are better than death
    So why are you proud?O
    Finally, we came to life again after death. We wake to eternally life. Then, he says Death you shall die not us

    Short explanation

    Death, be not proud, though some have called thee
    ;Mighty and dreadful, for thou art not so
    For those whom thou think'st thou dost overthrow

    يخاطب الشاعر الموت فيقول أيها الموت لا تتكبر ,
    ولو وصفك بعض الناس بالقاهر والمرعب ,
    فأنت لست إلا تتوهم ذلك.

    ،؛،؛،؛،؛،؛،؛

    .Die not, poor Death, nor yet canst thou kill me
    From rest and sleep, which but thy pictures be
    Much pleasure; then from thee much more must flow

    يتحدى الشاعر الموت فيقول أيها الموت المسكين لن تستطيع قتلي.
    واعلم أن الراحة والنوم شكل من أشكالك المليئة بالأُنس والتي تزداد أكثر معك.

    ،؛،؛،؛،؛،؛،؛

    And soonest our best men with thee do go
    .Rest of their bones, and soul's delivery

    وسرعان ما تريح أجساد خيرة رجالنا وتحرر أرواحهم.

    ،؛،؛،؛،؛،؛،؛

    Thou art slave to fate, chance, kings, and desperate men
    ;And dost with poison, war, and sickness dwell

    يشبه الشاعر الموت بأنه عبد للقضاء والقدر والملوك والقتلة من الرجال.
    وأنه بالسموم والأوبئة والحروب يحيى

    ،؛،؛،؛،؛،؛،؛

    And poppy or charms can make us sleep as well
    ?And better than thy stroke; why swell'st thou then

    يستطرد الشاعر مخاطبته للموت فيقول بأن العقاقير والتعاويذ
    تجعلنا أيضا ننام ولكنها أفضل منك.
    فعلام التكبر؟

    ،؛،؛،؛،؛،؛،؛

    One short sleep past, we wake eternally
    .And death shall be no more; Death, thou shalt die

    يختم الشاعر الأبيات بقوله غفوة قصيرة ثم نحيا حياة أبدية
    لا يوجد بها موت لأنك حينها أنت من سيكون ميتا.








    In my opinion, there are different between these two poems in thinking and thought.
    One of them thinks that all things will face death whereas the other thinks that death is not the end.
    It is clear that John Donne's thoughts likes in one side the thoughts of Islam about death but is it John Donne's believe?O
    I think Donne feared death. So, he tried to get himself strength by writing this poem


    Do you agree with me?o

    .I wish that you get information and feel interesting with reading poetry
    .Thank you for reading

    والسلام عليكم ورحمة الله وبركاته
    التعديل الأخير تم بواسطة shooog ; 22-6-2007 الساعة 01:47 AM

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    الصورة الرمزية AIKEN

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    افتراضي رد: To daffodils and Death be not proud

    وعليكم السلام ورحمة الله وبركاته

    ...Hi, shooog

    !I don't know what to say, I'm impressed

    You are at an advanced and improved level in
    ...choosing the subject and in presenting it

    .Poetry, an art shows how its creator expresss his feelings

    .I see that you have chosen an important fact to present, Death

    Death, of course, has a different shapes to the people
    .depending on many facts such as believes and habits

    ,These two whom you mentioned their poems
    ,I beleive that they live under different kind of life
    :so that is why
    there are different between these two poems in thinking and thought

    ...Thank you shooog for your unique topic
    ^^ I'm looking forward for what you hide for us

    والسلام عليكم ورحمة الله وبركاته
    التعديل الأخير تم بواسطة AIKEN ; 22-6-2007 الساعة 02:23 AM

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    الصورة الرمزية shooog

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    كاتب الموضوع

    افتراضي رد: To daffodils and Death be not proud

    Thank you for reading the subject
    Nice to see you here

    Also, I don't know what to say too, thank you

    About the poetry, I like the second one than the first.
    The second has factual emotions which are expressed by his deep fright.
    This is what I think and what it really happened after this poem.


    Thank you AIKEN

    والسلام عليكم ورحمة الله وبركاته


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    الصورة الرمزية Dragonier

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    افتراضي رد: To daffodils and Death be not proud

    وعليكم السلام ورحمة الله وبركاته

    Thank you shoog for this great topic
    The way you presented the two poems attracted my atention alot

    As for me. I prefered the first poem
    I felt that the comparrision between human and the daffofils
    was appropriate.
    The poet shows that the the flower won't die alone
    Even man dies.
    The difference is between the period of each one's life
    In fact, I enjoyed reading it alot

    The second poem was great too
    The poet has a challenging character
    Even that the he might die any moment
    because Death can take his life, he wasn't afraid from it
    And he was misunderstimating the power of death
    by comparing it with charms and poppy

    Thank you for these great poems shoog
    And I'm looking forward to seeing your next topics

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    الصورة الرمزية тнэ ѕиіρэя

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    افتراضي رد: To daffodils and Death be not proud

    وعليكم السلام ورحمة الله وبركاته ،،

    Thanks Ms shoog for these two poems
    You've done a great job
    :nosweat: actualy I didn't like Poetry
    In the last semester, I was absent several times in poetry classes
    :crazy: because I hate this subject

    thankx again

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    الصورة الرمزية shooog

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    كاتب الموضوع

    افتراضي رد: To daffodils and Death be not proud

    اقتباس المشاركة الأصلية كتبت بواسطة Dragonier مشاهدة المشاركة
    وعليكم السلام ورحمة الله وبركاته



    Thank you shoog for this great topic
    The way you presented the two poems attracted my atention alot

    As for me. I prefered the first poem
    I felt that the comparrision between human and the daffofils
    was appropriate.
    The poet shows that the the flower won't die alone
    Even man dies.
    The difference is between the period of each one's life
    In fact, I enjoyed reading it alot

    The second poem was great too
    The poet has a challenging character
    Even that the he might die any moment
    because Death can take his life, he wasn't afraid from it
    And he was misunderstimating the power of death
    by comparing it with charms and poppy

    Thank you for these great poems shoog

    And I'm looking forward to seeing your next topics
    thank you Dragonier for your replying
    I like your opinion
    It has a long view
    thanks



    اقتباس المشاركة الأصلية كتبت بواسطة The Sniper مشاهدة المشاركة
    وعليكم السلام ورحمة الله وبركاته ،،



    Thanks Ms shoog for these two poems
    You've done a great job
    :nosweat: actualy I didn't like Poetry
    In the last semester, I was absent several times in poetry classes
    :crazy: because I hate this subject


    thankx again



    Ammm
    !!you didn't like poetry
    In contrary , I found myself in poetry
    But in another literatures I didn't like prose
    thank you The Sniper for replying

    والسلام عليكم ورحمة الله وبركاته


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