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back again how r everybody i hope u r all fine

any way kakashi

here is some correction

life is pain hidden by hope

but i think it's better to say

life is pain covered by hope

any way your turn now

السلام عليكم ورحمة الله وبركاته

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المشاركة الأصلية كتبت بواسطة sharloc holmez

back again how r everybody i hope u r all fine

any way kakashi

here is some correction

life is pain hidden by hope

but i think it's better to say

life is pain covered by hope

any way your turn now

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Welcome back

life is a pain covered by hope

Good

And thanks for your correction to Kakashe's translation

Waiting for a new sentence

في أمان الله

oho i don't know how i could make this horrible mistake if my Eng teach saw me he will get mad

thanks for correction Fatima

maybe it's my engineering economics covering my head a book of 700 pages in Eng but mathematics Eng

any way good luck for every one in their studies oh i remembered it's not about luck study hard and u will get the best of anything

sorry i got carried away

الهندسة هي أقصر الطرق المتبعة للوصول إلى حل لمشكلة ما ...

fun right

engineering is the shortest way followed to reach the solution of a problem
i hope its right

bro sharloc and sis fatma the sentence (life is a pian covered by hope) is a wrong one

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bro sharloc and sis fatma the sentence (life is a pian covered by hope) is a wrong one

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brother kakashi i don't understand u are asking or u r stating ^^"

can u explain more

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engineering is the shortest way followed to reach the solution of a problem

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almost right but it would be better as i think to say

engineering is the shortest followed way to reach the solution of a problem

ur turn now

اقصد ان لا يوجد ترجمة لجملة الحياة الم يخفيه امل و لكن يمكنك شرحها فقط هذا على حسب مدرس متميز انجلبزى و شخص صديق لى من امريكا قالو ان لا يمكنك ترجمة هذه الجملة

السلام عليكم ورحمة الله وبركاته

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المشاركة الأصلية كتبت بواسطة kakashe

اقصد ان لا يوجد ترجمة لجملة الحياة الم يخفيه امل و لكن يمكنك شرحها فقط هذا على حسب مدرس متميز انجلبزى و شخص صديق لى من امريكا قالو ان لا يمكنك ترجمة هذه الجملة

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OK, I have sth to say

I concur with you that there are sentences are impossible to translate like verses of Koran, but here the translator translates the meaning

Other example proverbs, here the translator should know the culture of countries in order to give the right meaning -or almost appropriate meaning- in the target language

And this sentence:

الحياة ألم يخفيه أمل.

We can translate its meaning by many ways, like my teacher did. And this is one of his translations:

There is always a light at the end of the tunnel.

OK, don't you think this meaning is so close to the meaning of Arabic sentence?

I hope this point is clear

OK, waiting for your sentence

في أمان الله

i got ur point of view and thats exactly wt my teacher and friend mean to say
thnx

oh i see so that's what what u meant

in this u r right and because of that there's an outstanding translators so when there's an English sentence that cannot be translated exactly they use the almost right translate and another thing there's some words that means something else than the exact mean as we say in Arabic

تورية

it seems that i talked too much any way this is the sense of translation as i call it

كلنا نستفيد من بعضنا البعض
making difference in our english
تعنى نؤثر ايجابيا فى الانجليزية
هههههههههههه

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المشاركة الأصلية كتبت بواسطة kakashe

i got ur point of view and thats exactly wt my teacher and friend mean to say
thnx

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You're welcome

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المشاركة الأصلية كتبت بواسطة sharloc holmez

oh i see so that's what what u meant

in this u r right and because of that there's an outstanding translators so when there's an English sentence that cannot be translated exactly they use the almost right translate and another thing there's some words that means something else than the exact mean as we say in Arabic

تورية

it seems that i talked too much any way this is the sense of translation as i call it

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Not at all! I benefit from this word; it is the first time I hear it. Thanks for the info

Yes you're right, and this happen to me a lot.

Kakashe:

I hope you put a new sentence. Just try to do it

بالتوفيق إن شاء الله

وفي حفظ الله ورعايته

I don't know wt's exactly going on here
but I want a sentence to translate

xD

take care all

لا تقلل من نفسك و الا اصبح الندم رفيقك

don't underestimate your self so the regression won't be your mate
=\ hmmmmm !

I hope it's correct

my try is

لا تأسفن على غدر الزمان لطالما ، رقصت على جثث الأسود كلاب
xD

I just don't know why from all arabic sentences this is wt came on ma mind
hope it'll be easy

take care all

i see we turn to politics now that's some dangerous thing to say these days or i heard so and why i get the feeling you were calling me out i love poets

here is the translation

don't u ever grieve over what happened to you because there will always be some dog dancing in front of lion's grave

فاطمة هذا مثال واضح للتورية

the real meaning to this is

i was a lion but some dogs took it after restraining me and i will never regret it

so Sos Chan u wanna try me ok no problem try this one from the same person

^__^

بلغ سلامي للطفولة بعثرت

ألعابها بين الركام بتهمة البغضاء

بلغ سلامي للحرائر ُمزقت

أستارها في غفلة الرقباء

i hope it's not too hard ^^"

hey guys
how are you ?
it's been awhile here


oh brother sharolck
all of this is a sentence
?
hhh just kidding
but u know it seems like a part of poem
then we can't exactly translate it in accurate 100 %


but this is my a hoot
ps. i am not in my all concentrating coz offlu

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send to the childhood my greets
for the accusation of aversion , its toys were disturbed between debris

send to the free - born women my greets
whose drapes were ripped when the censor was inattentive

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mine

سئمت الانتظار ، سئمت التحديق في المارة ، متى سيصل المنتَظَر ؟

see ya

guys, we cant just translate poem like this! its impossible! we cant translate poem plz choose simple sentences
thnx

hi everyone

iam very sorry for getting worked up

by the way the poems translation is the next level of translation even if it can't be translated accurately

Do Ri Me

i hope you get well soon
شافاك الله و عافاك

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send to the childhood my greets
for the accusation of aversion , its toys were disturbed between debris

send to the free - born women my greets
whose drapes were ripped when the censor was inattentive

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ur translation is perfect-like translation and it would be more beautiful if u use

aversion : loathers

kakashi

sorry for this and i will keep it in mind

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سئمت الانتظار ، سئمت التحديق في المارة ، متى سيصل المنتَظَر ؟

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i got sick of waiting and staring at the passing-by people , when will he arrive
?

موضوعي الجديد في قلم الأعضاء .

yep translate this !!

Do Ri Me
by the way from which manga is your signature i feel like i know it but not sure

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المشاركة الأصلية كتبت بواسطة Sos_chan

don't underestimate your self so the regression won't be your mate
=\ hmmmmm !

I hope it's correct

my try is

لا تأسفن على غدر الزمان لطالما ، رقصت على جثث الأسود كلاب
xD

I just don't know why from all arabic sentences this is wt came on ma mind
hope it'll be easy

take care all

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!hello sis
good translation but it would be better saying
never underestimate yourself or you will live A life of remorse
or
never underestimate your self or remorse shall be ur fellow

regression لا تعنى الندم
take care
and remorse isnt a living thing so i cant use mate with it
WEAK EXPRESSION
but fellow here can be used instead of mate since its not
mean 100% رفيق و لكن تابع لك او ملازم لك
dont translate word by word just give the point of view

i hope iam correct and u get my point of view

cya

hi mina again

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Do Ri Me

i hope you get well soon
شافاك الله و عافاك

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brother sharloc thanx

اقتباس:

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ur translation is perfect-like translation and it would be more beautiful if u use

aversion : loathers

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loathers ?
u surely mean : loathe or loathing
( from long man i got their meaning )

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موضوعي الجديد في قلم الأعضاء .

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my new topic at members-pen

you know it's not a sentence at all huhuhuh


mine

أصعب أنواع الفراق ، فراق القلب

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Do Ri Me
by the way from which manga is your signature i feel like i know it but not sure

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really surprised me you notice it as manga not anime
but
coz you are a guy
you " NEED NOT TO KNOW " i hope u got it
^^"

اقتباس:

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loathers ?
u surely mean : loathe or loathing
( from long man i got their meaning )

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loathers البُغَضَاءْ
it's a subject

اقتباس:

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you know it's not a sentence at all huhuhuh

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i know

^^"

اقتباس:

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أصعب أنواع الفراق ، فراق القلب

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the bitter kind of depart is the depart of hearts

and about what u said at the last

need not to know

i like this sentence , said in a lot of detective novels between the police and even in detective conan series

any way as i may not seems so , I am a hardcore manga reader

i get u as i think , it's a shoujo manga as it seems

any way it seems like the drawing of two manga i know because the boy hair is uniqe

sorry for prying and don't worry i need not to know

^^
someone please put a sentence

اذا لم تحقق احلامك فلا تيأس و ابدا من جديد

سهلة مرة ^_^

؟؟؟؟؟؟؟؟؟؟؟؟؟؟؟؟

السلام عليكم ورحمة الله وبركاته

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المشاركة الأصلية كتبت بواسطة sharloc holmez

فاطمة هذا مثال واضح للتورية

the real meaning to this is

i was a lion but some dogs took it after restraining me and i will never regret it

so Sos Chan u wanna try me ok no problem try this one from the same person

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Thanks for the explanation

but you mean "...restraining me, so I will never regret it"?

Because I get it with so not but

Or you mean sth else?

Waiting for your answer

اقتباس:

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المشاركة الأصلية كتبت بواسطة kakashe

اذا لم تحقق احلامك فلا تيأس و ابدا من جديد

سهلة مرة ^_^

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Whether you didn't achieve your dreams, don't give up and try again.

I hope it is correct

Try this:

قبورنا تُبنى ونحن ما تُبنا، يا ليتنا تُبنا من قبل أن تُبنى.

بالتوفيق إن شاء الله

وفي حفظ الله ورعايته

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Thanks for the explanation

but you mean "...restraining me, so I will never regret it"?

Because I get it with so not but

Or you mean sth else?

Waiting for your answer

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Fatima u r welcomed

i meant another thing

he doesn't mean so as a result

he means although i was a lion and they were dogs they still took it after restraining me but i will never regret it

after thinking about it u can use but even so i don't regret it and if u wanna know why because i died as lion and they will still live as dogs

وربما لو قرأت البيتين التاليين لها لفهمت معنى البيت السابق :

لا تحسبن برقصها تعلو على أسيادها فالأسد أسدُ و الكلاب كـــلابُ
تبقى الأسـود مخيفة في أسرهــــــــا حتى و إن نبحت عليها كلابُ

poem cant be translated just give up and fatma
when we use whether u must use OR in the sentence
try again

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المشاركة الأصلية كتبت بواسطة sharloc holmez

Fatima u r welcomed

i meant another thing

he doesn't mean so as a result

he means although i was a lion and they were dogs they still took it after restraining me but i will never regret it

after thinking about it u can use but even so i don't regret it and if u wanna know why because i died as lion and they will still live as dogs

وربما لو قرأت البيتين التاليين لها لفهمت معنى البيت السابق :

لا تحسبن برقصها تعلو على أسيادها فالأسد أسدُ و الكلاب كـــلابُ
تبقى الأسـود مخيفة في أسرهــــــــا حتى و إن نبحت عليها كلابُ

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Aha I get it now, thanks a lot for the clarification

اقتباس:

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المشاركة الأصلية كتبت بواسطة kakashe

poem cant be translated just give up and fatma

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OH, you mean this sentence is a poem?

اقتباس:

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قبورنا تُبنى ونحن ما تُبنا، يا ليتنا تُبنا من قبل أن تُبنى.

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I didn't know that, I'm sorry

اقتباس:

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when we use whether u must use OR in the sentence
try again

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Oops yes yes you are right

OH, what a great mistake I made! Thank you so much for the correction

OK, here you are:

If you didn't achieve your dreams, don't give up and try again.

I think now it is correct

في أمان الله

اقتباس:

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المشاركة الأصلية كتبت بواسطة فاطمة الزهراء

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Oops yes yes you are right

OH, what a great mistake I made! Thank you so much for the correction

OK, here you are:

If you didn't achieve your dreams, don't give up and try again.

I think now it is correct

في أمان الله

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yep its right now
well done
well,we all learn from each other and get benifit
now its ur turn in putting sentence and plz dont put poem
ty

اقتباس:

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المشاركة الأصلية كتبت بواسطة kakashe

yep its right now
well done
well,we all learn from each other and get benifit
now its ur turn in putting sentence and plz dont put poem
ty

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benefit

OK, don't worry. Here an easy one:

ولأنني مرهقة جدًا بسبب يوم دراسي شاق وجو حار، بدأتُ أخرف قليلًا.

Good luck

وفي حفظ الله ورعايته

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and because I am very exhausted due to a hard studying day and very hot one, I started to hallucinate a little

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hi sis how are you
ur sentence can describe me at all the day , but the different thing it's very cold here ... rain and thunder
huhuhuh


mine

اقتباس:

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من أصعب المواقف التي قد تواجهك في الحياة ، غدر الصديق !

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اقتباس:

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المشاركة الأصلية كتبت بواسطة Do Ri Me

hi sis how are you

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Hi dear sis Do Re Mi ^^

I'm fine and sleepy, too :d

What about you?

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ur sentence can describe me at all the day , but the different thing it's very cold here ... rain and thunder
huhuhuh

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Woow RAIN

^^

It seems we are late lol

جعلها الله أمطار خير وبركة :)

And may Allah help you with your Mid-exams

اقتباس:

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and because I am very exhausted due to a hard studying day and very hot one, I started to hallucinate a little

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I think: and a very hot one

Good

اقتباس:

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من أصعب المواقف التي قد تواجهك في الحياة ، غدر الصديق !

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How tough thing when your friend becomes a betrayer!

Hmm.. here my translation is so brief ^^"

Waiting for the correction

Mine:

من أهم عناصر تقنية تدوين رؤوس الأقلام، عنصر السماع والتركيز.

بالتوفيق إن شاء الله

وفي حفظ الله ورعايته

back again

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من أصعب المواقف التي قد تواجهك في الحياة ، غدر الصديق !

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To be betrayed by your friend is one of the difficult situations that you could face in your life

or

The betrayal of a friend is >>>>

in and out

i seem to be late no problem i will do the next one

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من أهم عناصر تقنية تدوين رؤوس الأقلام، عنصر السماع والتركيز.

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listening and concentrating are the most important elements of the headnote writing

سأضع جملة ولم لا ...

غدا يوم الجمعة فلا تنسوا قراءة سورة الكهف ...

اقتباس:

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المشاركة الأصلية كتبت بواسطة sharloc holmez

listening and concentrating are the most important elements of the headnote writing

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Good

But...

Hmm, I said
السماع
not
الاستماع

So, I think we will say:

Hearing and concentrating are the most elements of the headnotes writing.

For this:

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غدا يوم الجمعة فلا تنسوا قراءة سورة الكهف ...

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Remember that tomorrow is Friday. So, don't forget to recite Surat Al-Kahf.

Mine:y

حتى تزداد فعالياتنا في إدارة الوقت، لا نجعل تنظيم الجدول كعائق.

بالتوفيق إن شاء الله

وفي حفظ الله ورعايته

In order to enhance our efficiency at management time,
we must not make setting up the schedule a barrier


hope it's okay

mine

حمدا لله فقد تمت استعادة النظام من على حافة الانهيار

السلام عليكم ورحمة الله وبركاته

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المشاركة الأصلية كتبت بواسطة Do Ri Me

In order to enhance our efficiency at management time,
we must not make setting up the schedule a barrier

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In order to enhance our efficiency in management of time...

As I know we use in instead of at with the verb enhance

اقتباس:

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حمدا لله فقد تمت استعادة النظام من على حافة الانهيار

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After the system was on the verge of falling down, it is now back to normal. Praise be to Allah!

I'm sure there are some mistakes ^^"

Waiting for the correction

Try this:

عامل الناس كما تحب أن يعاملوك.

بالتوفيق إن شاء الله

وفي حفظ الله ورعايته

TREAT OTHERS AS YOU LIKE TO BE TREATED

i hope it's coorect

^__^

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المشاركة الأصلية كتبت بواسطة kakashe

TREAT OTHERS AS YOU LIKE TO BE TREATED

i hope it's coorect

^__^

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There is an idiom as a translation of this sentence, which is:

Do as you would be done by.

Now, it is your turn to put a new sentence

في أمان الله ورعايته

اقتباس:

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المشاركة الأصلية كتبت بواسطة فاطمة الزهراء

There is an idiom as a translation of this sentence, which is:

Do as you would be done by.

Now, it is your turn to put a new sentence

في أمان الله ورعايته

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there are alots of idioms sis

but my sentence is correct

^__^

u put a sentence

PLZ

اقتباس:

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المشاركة الأصلية كتبت بواسطة kakashe

there are alots of idioms sis

but my sentence is correct

^__^

u put a sentence

PLZ

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Yes I know, and I did not say yours is wrong

So, that means your translation is correct

OK, try this:

هذه الإجازة الأسبوعية مليئة بالأشغال؛ لذا لا أضمن لنفسي المشاركة هنا كثيرًا.

بالتوفيق إن شاء الله

في أمان الله وحفظه

THIS WEEKEND IS FULL WITH WORKS ,SO I CANT GUARANTEE MYSELF I WOULD PARTICIPATE HERE SO MUCH

i hope its correct

^__^

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المشاركة الأصلية كتبت بواسطة kakashe

THIS WEEKEND IS FULL WITH WORKS ,SO I CANT GUARANTEE MYSELF I WOULD PARTICIPATE HERE SO MUCH

i hope its correct

^__^

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Good

I hope you or someone else put a new sentence

في أمان الله

الثقة بالنفسة, من اهم أسلحة النجاح
و التهاون, هو السبيل الى الفشل

i hope it's easy

^__^

self confidence , one of the most important weapons of success
And negligence, is the way to failure

this my shot ... it's fresh from mind who is just woken up

لم أستطع النوم الليلة الماضية ، فصوت وقع قطرات المطر على النافذة كان مريعا !

hey there how is everybody

i know i know it's strange what can happen in one night

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لم أستطع النوم الليلة الماضية ، فصوت وقع قطرات المطر على النافذة كان مريعا !

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i couldn't sleep yesterday because the sound of rain drops in the window was horrible

and someone put a sentence please :)

يجب على الزوج ان يكون متفاهما و ان يضع زوجته فى المقام الاول

try this

why you r so late guys?!

السلام عليكم ورحمة الله وبركاته

اقتباس:

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المشاركة الأصلية كتبت بواسطة kakashe

يجب على الزوج ان يكون متفاهما و ان يضع زوجته فى المقام الاول

try this

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The husband must understand his wife in the first place.

Hmm, I'm not sure

Waiting for the correction

اقتباس:

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المشاركة الأصلية كتبت بواسطة kakashe

why you r so late guys?!

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I'm late because:

اقتباس:

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المشاركة الأصلية كتبت بواسطة فاطمة الزهراء

هذه الإجازة الأسبوعية مليئة بالأشغال؛ لذا لا أضمن لنفسي المشاركة هنا كثيرًا.

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My sentence:

يا له من بحث ممل، متى سينتهي؟! بحث أكل مني ساعات، ولم يترك لي فرصة واحدة لأستعد لاختبار يوم الاثنين!

Sorry to make it long

بالتوفيق إن شاء الله

وفي أمان الله ورعايته

اقتباس:

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المشاركة الأصلية كتبت بواسطة فاطمة الزهراء

السلام عليكم ورحمة الله وبركاته




The husband must understand his wife in the first place.

Hmm, I'm not sure

Waiting for the correction

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السلام عليكم

first
متفهم understanding
so

The husband must be understanding and put his wife befor him self

it's ur turn to put one

what a boring research,when it will done? it took me hours and left no chance to revise for monday's test

i hope it's right

^_^

in god's safe